Oh I wasn't saying I personally go off what I heard on this website to buy a product without doing some leg work. I do take in consideration what people say about a product to come to my own conclusion. I'm say I am just relaying a message, And I'm just going of what I was told about a particular product and that that what most people on this site do " well I heard". I believe the person that told me this name is Cons?, To me it look's like he really put a lot of time a thought in to his z and everything he has done to it. So when he told me about the IC, I was surprised that he had them first of all and that he believes that they are better than the Greddy units he had on previously.